We got a comment from a guy called Y. Y’s comment reflects the idea that there are no rules about relationships, that except from a few different important factors how to behave with women is just fog. I both agree and disagree with his points and I wish we could go deeper.

Let’s get you up to speed on some context

I made a recording where I spoke to men about their own development and how crucial it is for a man to have a long term goal for himself to strive towards and how this process will make him more attractive to women. It does not matter if he is dating or have a current relationship. Men who is lazy and could do better does not seem to be what women wants. Reversely, men who focus only on the career or hobbies and neglect their families also will set themselves up for failure by neglecting the needs of his family.

The comment:

To start off with, I think this topic is open for discussion. I am certainly welcoming every piece of input you or someone else might have on the subject. I think we men could be better at comparing notes, share our experience and become better. I know most women agree. Everytime I explain what I do most women ask me to work harder. when a man is improving his situation everyone around, including the women also gets it better.

Is there a recipe for success with women?

“One thing I know for sure pretending like we know recipe for success with women it is like saying I know how to win in casino. There is no recipe. It is nor kizomba where you know steps nor bachata. It is call life.”

So, i will have to go ahead and disagree with you Y. I know women is a mystery to us men. At first glance they make no sense and it is seemingly impossible to understand where the mood swings and sudden rage for nothing comes from. And I realize you seem to not have a clear understanding of the recipe.

Just because you don’t see it, does not mean it doesn’t exist.

Your example about the casino is actually a great example to make my point. For most people, the casino is somewhere you go, you loose some and you win some, but, in the end of the day, the bank will probably take your money because in the long term, the odds are stacked against you and your money will be separated from you.

But, you know as well as me that there is ways to win against the bank. You can count cards for example. Where you pay so good attention on the stack that you know where to stand and where to fold. There is a reason why counting cards is illegal and will render you persona non grata in a place like Vegas.

As with women you can pay attention, be patient and learn how to carry yourself to improve your chances of having an effortless relationship with a partner.

Hoe_math on Youtube has great job in breaking down how men and women feel attraction to each others! It is both informative and funny!

Just because you don’t know the principles for success, does not mean they don’t exist! I think we have every reason to keep an open mind and open ourselves to learn from others. That is why we need other masculine men in our lives who walked before us in certain regards. Don’t you agree?

Three important factors,

“There is only 3 things that you need and every relationship is based on good sex. Stable finance and trust respect.”

I agree with you here. The three things you list here are some of the most important parts of masculinity and these three points we put a lot of focus on in the Masculinity program First rule of men. These are crucial for having a great life as a man and also important factors in a well functioning relationship with a woman.

But, from your list you are missing other points that is equally as important. As a matter of fact, some aspects you might take for granted is super important for even getting there.

Here is a few things you might have missed or simply taken for granted. .

• General masculinity – In order to have good sex and for a woman to respect you, You will have to be able to present yourself as a man. You need to embody enough masculine qualities to generate an interest and attraction to even get invited to a woman’s bed in the first place. Women often list a long list of wishes of what she wants from a man, but always seems to fail to tell you what she really wants. Any positive quality you have as a man will only serve you if the woman is interested in you as a man in the first place.
• Emotional resilience and Integrity – I agree with you that respect is important. As a matter of fact I think it is the foundation of a woman’s love in general. A woman is not attracted by a man who she is not looking up to and are impressed by in one way or another. I don’t think respect is something you have, it is something that you uphold around you and you will get all the disrespect you are willing to accept.
• Have a clear vision and relationship goals – Most men will have a disadvantage compared with women because of the lack of strategy when choosing a partner. A man is just happy to get attention and sexual access and is happy with that. Women on the other hand more often know what they want and will manage to bend the poor guys will so easily.
• Letting her become the center of the relationship – With no direction of his own he has no ability to lead the relationship to where he wishes to go. And, as soon as a women get you where she wants you, the relationship is doomed, since she reached the end of the road, you are no longer exciting as a partner and she will gradually stop respecting you!

The list goes on. It is so easy to say things like “You have to have respect” but if you lack a definition of what it is and have no strategy of what to do if the respect is not there, you will have very slim chances to have any long term meaningful relationship with any woman.

I can prove to you that your three things are absolutely not the only thing that matters.

I promise you that literary everywhere around us, there is men, who is broke, living on his friends sofa that has no respect for anyone and that is terrible in bed who get laid every day of the week. Some men just have that thing that makes women crazy.

“Everything else just a fog. Steam. Nothing. So there are no experts in that only personal subjective opinion”

To be honest, I have a little hard time deciding how to read this last sentence. It doesn’t entirely make sense to me.

I presume you personally have the experience that this topic is so difficult and complex that you can not see so far here. Maybe watching other people mindlessly stumble around in the relationship market place with no or little success. But, there is no need to be theatrical or dramatic.

I think I can give you some great news here.

Two years ago, I got the fog lifted. I learned everything I could about masculine frame, dominance dynamics and tactical integrity. It led me to immediately have great relationships with women. There is a pattern to the madness of relationships that every man can learn that will increase his success and lived experience with women around a 1000%.

Today, This is the kind of things I teach men in the program The first rule of men.

Off course this is subjective. I learned something and got insights that worked in my life. In fact it worked so well that I felt it was my moral duty to share it with other men.

Most important though, we have to fix the man. Before you are able to embody enough of what we have learned to expect from a man during the last 200.000 years of evolution you will get no where in life or with women!

I know literary nothing about you, more than what I can piece together from your comment. But, it seems like you personally have managed to walk a long way on this road to your masculine fulfillment in your own way.

Respect for that!

Thank you for inspiring me to write an article on this important subject Y!

Hopefully this can help someone to create a more effortless relationship with their partner.

If you or someone else who is reading this want more effortless relationships, feel free to reach out to us for a conversation about your life. DM us and let’s talk!